Get used to this joke, it'll serve you well the next few weeks or more. Instead of "Thank you, have a nice day," try ending each transaction with, "Bye now, maybe next time I see you we'll have a new president." HOOCH! COUGAR YONDER... It's _____ _ _ ( _ ) (2)_ _ _ (9)_ | (_) | ___ | ,_)(_) _ _ (4) ___ | ,_) | _ | /'___)| | | |( ) ( )| |/',__)| | | | | |( (___ | |_ | || \_/ || |\__, \| |_ (_) (_)`\____)`\__)(_)`\___/'(_)(____/`\__) _____ (_ _)_ | | (_) ___ ___ __ ___ | | | |/' _ ` _ `\ /'__`\/',__) | | | || ( ) ( ) |( ___/\__, \ (_) (_)(_) (_) (_)`\____)(____/ ATI, issue 249. November 10, 2000. "You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows." "you can call me timmy, or you can Call me zimmy." [part of rant?] {what's not???} I'm so glad MTV, GE, NBC et al spent so many hundreds of millions putting on their "snooze or blues" campaign this year, or we all wouldn't have seen that 1.7 percent increase in voter turnout. I've got it. Let's skip the electoral process altogether, and anyone who thinks they're worthy can put an attorney on rider and sue for the position. Joan Kennedy pleads guilty to DUI??? It's about time. Take a note: no longer need to drive Route 1 instead of I-95. Oh, hi. I'm prime anarchist, editor and publisher of this strange little ranticle we call a 'zine. How're YOU doin? That's mighty imporant right now, isn't? For after all, if you've got your health you've got everything. And if you're an american and your last name isn't a four-letter word, chances are good that's about all you've got. Anarchy, Music and Poetry is what we're about mostly. But as you already know, I'm sure, we're completely reader driven so submissions come first, eh? s/ prime -23- #'s http://www.lodz.pdi.net/~eristic/erisware.html http://www.geocities.com/comprhension http://www.vote-nobody.com http://adbusters.tao.ca http://www.gungho2000.com http://www.pacificsites.com/~mce/Gdocument.html http://geocities.com/countercoup http://www.earthisland.org http://www.cgocable.net/~jzawisza/bushcoke.jpg http://www.theonion.com/onion3640/bush_or_gore.html http://www.infoshop.org http://www.angelfire.com/mt/earthdream2000 http://www.ippn.org http://www.indymedia.org http://www.popandpolitics.com/articles/nader.html http://www.ezined.com http://www.thirdrailmag.com http://www.debatethis.org/gore/gorebushgame.jpg http://hometown.aol.com/tonytweb/coffeepoem.html http://www.r2kphilly.org http://www.powellsunion.com http://come.to/thesoaprotest http://devrandom.net/~dilinger http://hometown.aol.com/tnharter http://www.holyfamily-gj.org/pjo2.htm http://www.accessatlanta.com/global/local/yall/people/johnt/willc LETTUCE YOU CAN GNAW ON to marco: THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS NEITHER --daver to ati: Great election guys. You play for five days and it ends up a draw. We have something like that in England. It's called cricket. (You didn't really think I could let this one go by, now did you?) --Patrick W to marco: I'd love to start a national movement that EVERYONE, EVERYONE not vote until 6:30 at night in their prospective time zones. It would be called the ADV, or After Dinner Vote, and would become the new voter bloc of the public. Pretty funny huh?? --Don Hi, A. EARN SUBSTANTIAL CASH VIA YOUR WEBSITE OR EZINE Our website, www.far2far.com, IS DIFFERENT : it pays you substantial cash when you refer users who buy from our site - and this could become one of the biggest money spinners for your site or ezine. --denese [ed note: no offense, but what part of "not interested" didn't you understand?] Hi Marc. Maybe an adition to 249 http://freespace.virgin.net/nick.sandberg/chips.htm read and judge yourself. If you allready saw it before.. then just forget this. --Greetings Hit1 *grin [ed note: Some of the phollowin LETTUCE is late for the election, because of our weekly deadline, or is it?] > What kind of hairbrained, head-up-his-ass, moron came up with >this one... I missed that one. Sounds like a barn burner. And is this issue [ati248.txt] weird or what. Lets see: A screaming lactator (whom I don't disagree with), a visit from some dead guy in a three cornered hat that probably had just killed his fair share of those red savages to expand his land, and is still daring someone, anyone, to pry that gun out of his cold stiff fingers plus, a suckup report on Elvis Costello doing "Rock girls in Space" for the awesome???? WB? Whoof! Double Whoof!!! Prediction for tommorrow: George Bush will win and win big. ...other predictions: The titanic will rise and be renamed Challenger before it heads off on its maiden voyage to the Gulf of Yemen. The Hindenberg 2 will float again, only to be destroyed by those right wing Nazi bastards over NYC this time as they try to take out Clinton's final meeting with any and all black leaders at the UN. And Vietnam will actually declare that we won the war and communism is a failure in exchange for 3 cartons of Marlboro's and a years supply of Spagettio's Hey - I could be wrong. --Don Hey, What's up w/this? Are you really interested in my writing a piece for you? If you are, just send me a list of a few possible topics & I may or my not write something on or off topic for you. I realize that there's most likely not any money in this, but that doesn't matter that much to me; I'm just a bored kid w/a few minutes to kill, and that's never paid well. I'm sorry that I took so long to respond; I was not and am not sure whether you were serious in the message to which I am responding, but I've decided to find out. With bated breath, --Patrick Dear Friends, Take a minutes to signup this program. 1 Click = $0.03 check out my site: I found an amazing new tool for exploring the Internet, a FREE customizable desktop portal called ePilot. It works through your existing Internet service provider and gives you one-click access to... [ed note: what????] Let me know how you like it. ******* SORRY if you received this email --soccerx2 ******* POST ELECTION CANDIDATE'S STATEMENT I am reflecting upon last Tuesday's election results, and upon the previous two years of the Hippie for Congress Campaign. I am honored and proud to have been a write-in candidate for election to the 16th U.S. Congressional District. I respectfully concede the election to my opponent, Donald Manzullo. May he govern with wisdom, compassion, and justice. My heart and mind are spinning with an intense storm of hopeful, discouraging, and often confusing and conflicting thoughts and feelings. Surrounded by this emotional tempest, I find myself drawn again and again back to one particular thought: It was worth it. The official totals of write-in votes for Martin Hippie are so low as to be profound. Twenty one votes in Jo Daviess county, fourteen in Stephenson, thirty three in the City of Rockford, six in Winnebago, four in Ogle, zero in Boone, and an unknown amount (they're still counting?) in McHenry. Somehow these election results just don't match up with the people I met and the reality I encountered as I walked the 16th District. I'm not claiming ballot fraud, I'm filing a mass missing persons report. Where are those thousands of people honking horns and waving as I walked down the road? Where are the hundreds of indignant, concerned citizens who told me they want to take back their government? Where are the disenfranchised, the disgruntled, the seriously pissed-off? They weren't at the polls. http://www.hippie4congress.org _____ _ ( _ ) ( )_ _ | (_) | | ,_) (_) | _ | | | | | | | | | | |_ | | (_) (_) `\__) (_) PAGE 3 CORRECTION (buried deep like the other papes:) The parody in ATI 248 was not written by the whole group which was implied when the byline was left out of the final broadcast copy of the zine. Merritt Bussiere wrote it. If you keep this issue anywhere, please consider pasting the correct copy onto the oversight, ok? Thank you, marc frucht editor, publisher and prime anarchist. Activist Times. THEY'RE REPUBLICRATS to the tune of the Beatles' "You Can't Do That" words by Merritt Bussiere YAKMYTH: A Watcher's Guide To C-Span's Homer-Odyssey Booktalk Session Oct 2000 by Pomerika Odyseuss,The king of Ithaka. Kris Hitchens on hubris and nemesis. Insists that Homer was a real man who stood on some of the same rocks that he did at times. jeez, CSpan. Asking Hitchens if he thinks the book is relevant to today, is like asking him if his car will die in the next 300,000 miles without an oil-change. Yes, there are two other people yakking, but I mostly focus today on Homer, the C-Span interviewer and Mr. Hitchens. Why? Because I think K(c)ris is more (while at the same time less) profound than he always sees himself. Dead At Sea. C'mon people. Let's discuss this year's 23 russian sailors buried alive in the submersible coffin, ok? Across the Aegean sea, around the cape. Real geography as opposed to parageography. Don't go there please! "Unacknowleged Legislation," is going to be Hitchens' newest this January on the VERSO label. Stanley Lombardo and his drum. Turn your eye away. Focus not on him or his drum, just on the greek. J. Bottum slams Lombardo's translation a second time. Does he dis the book or Lombardo himself? Oh, telephone questions soon. Thank you, Athena! booktv@c-span.org There goes Lombardo again. English this time, neat. I really wish he'd use a kickdrum or a foot on a hardwood floor instead of using his "post modern shamanic" drum. The guy truly lacks rhythm. Bottum with another dis. "It's great stuff, but..." ventriloquizing. catharsis. pity. terror. Christopher Hitchens with a bottle of springwater between his legs, a parallel translation on his lap, and 4-inch moptop hair just over his left eyebrow. Did you ever wonder why AOL picks the A and the eye on the pyramid for their mythos? Lombardo, why did you pick the "world flag" earth.gif for your coverpic? Agamemnon praises Penelope. Men will make songs about her. Alludes to Feminist interpretations of Odyssey. /odysseus - dr suess/ (hmm...) "Fear, dread, humiliation - a very religious text." - Hitchens How does one live their life when the war is over? Your father was of great reknown. Not in combat, but in warzones. [Hitchens] Remember thinking, well this is what it's like then. "No one left to lie to: the values of the worst family" Hitchen's most recent year, I mean book. http://www.versobooks.com "this long hexameter line" Bottum's biggest problem is he's trying so hard to have Hitchens' hair. Yeah, Debra Dickerson. Put him back in his place. Monkeying around. Don't touch Dickens. This new book helps me want to go back to the original. So this whole discussion is not to grasp Homer and whether the Toyota Odyssey has Firestone tires at all. It's about telling us to buy this new book! Tele-spam!!! A C-SpanoMercial. On the way back to Ithaca, why are they fighting? Just because there's people there. They're "drunk." Civilians are in as much danger as soldiers as shown in this book. Athena and Poseidon. Feminine : Masculine. Or at times M:F. Athena tells Telemakkus don't make your mother remarry, dowries suck. Is cunning a virtue? Odysseus is an inveterate lier. Does he have to tell these lies? Talking to dad in the pasture. Should I tell him straight out? Or lie? He seems to be enjoying giving the old man a big long "line." Telling a good lie, that's just great. All Cretins are liars, so saith the people in Crete. Does he have to kill all 108 of the suitors? Ruthlessness, cruelty, what about all of that? Does a hero have to be an entirely virtuous character or can he be a "real people." Patience, endurance, intelligence, commitment, you need all of these to be called virtuous. Always willing to expose himself courageously. OK, I'll challenge you to some games. Pushing the envelope. Nikos Kazantzakos. Finally you mention him. It took one of Lombardo's living heros to call on the phone [didn't hear the name - he published another recent "Iliad and Odyssey."] before he'd whip out Nikos. I watched his adams apple go up and down when the caller complained about his rhetoric, and which version of greek he picked. Q: What part of the odyssey turns your students on? Cyclops, The Sirens, the domestic side of the story. The suitors, the wife, will she recognize him? Q: You picked D-Day for your Iliad. Why? Editor and myself both wanted to stay away from anything "too classical." "Normandy launched a thousand ships," said hitchens Hitchens discussed being a tourist in Athens in 1974: This crowd was chanting something and I tried to join in, I didn't know what it was til after. Catharsis, cathar-sis cathar sis. 12 ships each with a crew of 20 or 30 men during the trojan war. Tried to bring them all back home safely. Unable to. They were destroyed by their own recklessness. \So many US Marines raping/ \japanese teens lately? / \ my thought again / [a tongue speaking episcopalian phone call attacking hitchens AND the classics ignored here.] Debra Dickerson: I went to Greece on my honeymoon. Like it or not it's part of us. Delphi, dead white men, who needs it, but you cannot look at the Parthenon and not be moved. There's no reason you can't know this and not know other things too. The best poet who ever lived, bottums quoting lombardo about homer. If you have to ask, poetry won't mean anything to you. As soon as you've asked the question, you've already lost. \U shoulda mentioned Clinton/ \not bringing back his poet/ \for the second inaug... / Is Odysseus just to kill all 108? Yes the suitors were wrong, but was Odysseus right? the real reason to read a poem is Homer's mind. Quotes Arnold, "he saw life steadily and he saw it (hold? whole?)" the human condition. the very deep, wide, the clear. Luck and Virtue - Bottums says they're unrelated \define hubris\ \then, d00d. \ Odysseus doesn't have free will, I (hitchens) wish you would've touched on this. Scapegoating, I'm glad Hitchens brings this up. Funny it would be in defense of Bottums saying if you aren't Christian, you wouldn't understand the Prodigal son. :Try living in Chiapas, Colombia, Australia or : :the Hopi reservation, Bottums. There are people: :behaving 10 times more X-Tian there than you'll: :ever behave, sorry to say... homeric - heroic mysterious woman, mysterious woman. nostos - home. winedark sea rosey fingers Chapman's Homer as celebrated by Keats And Pope's. ============== I thoroughly enjoyed this. I only regret they never had an exhausting discussion of Elpinore. You could view any of the current presidential candidates in light of Elpinore, couldn't you? Or any past ones, for that one. Dan Quayle, for sure. For more about myth and metaphor, you can check out the James Merrill school of metaforics, or read Carl Franklin's treatise on Joseph Campbell. What you do after that is anyone's guess... http://www.angelfire.com/wi/kokopeli/merrill.html and http://www.etext.org/Zines/ASCII/ATI/ati183.txt respectively "THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITH OUR CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM" The President's veto of legislation to criminalize unauthorized disclosures of classified information could become the most momentous development in government secrecy policy since the 1995 executive order on classified information. It is already prompting renewed questions about the workings of the secrecy system. This afternoon, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth H. Bacon bluntly acknowledged that the classification system does not function satisfactorily. "[The President] alluded to the fact that there can be over-classification or mis-classification," Mr. Bacon noted. "I don't think anybody disagrees with that. There are many problems with our classification system. And it was that realization, in part, that led to his decision to ... veto the bill." 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